DISCUSSION FORUM ON HOMOEOPATHY

•  Is there any Necessity for Reproving of Homoeopathic Medicines which were proved during Hahnemannian time. ?

Opinion:

1) Dr. J.T. Kent (Lesser Writing)

Dr. Kent

There is general call for our old remedies to be reproved but nothing has been done yet to improve any of the old proving made in early days. We need not expect our Materia Medica to grow except in the hands of good observers. When we have noted all that can be observed by the physician himself and felt and observed by the prover and observed by companions, we have gathered about all that is worth knowing from the purpose of prescribing.

Provers do not push the drug un till tissue changes are found hence the expert examinations have been useless and these laboratory examinations do not add to the information that is desired either in the patient or prover. The simple minded patients and prover give us the best symptoms for use. The so called pathological prescribing is all done on clinical symptoms that they oppose prescribing on clinical symptoms as a basis of prescription. Such ignorance is characteristic of mongrelism throughout.

Our well proved remedies do not need reproving. scrunity proved drugs should have further proving but in the same method followed by DR. Hahnemann . Remedies should be proved in low,  medium and high potencies. As soon as the prover begins to experience the symptoms the administration of the drug should be stopped un till there is no manifestation of drug action else confusion follows, the confusion has spoiled many otherwise good proving.

2)  Dr. J.D. Patil (Aurangabad) PG Director & Director of Student Welfare MUHS Nashik.

Views on Necessity for Reproving of Homoeopathic Medicines :-

Yes it is very necessary to reprove all Homoeopathic Medicines because

1)   Majority of Homoeopathic Medicines are proved very long back

2)  They are Proved in the environmental conditions which is totally different from our 
     country

3)  In olden days the Number of Prover was very less

4)  Extreme difference in living standard, climate, food and mental condition of prover

3. Dr. Jawahar Shah (Bombay)

Reproving should be done mainly for four reasons:

1. Value system has changed.

2. Drug substances have changed.

3. The inputs vibration, environment, frequencies have changed.

4. Stress of life has changed. So if we do proving now in different countries, in different races, we can get much better and bigger picture of a remedy suiting to our environmental circumstances.

4. Dr. Varsha V. Sharma (Mumbai)  MD(Hom)

Email: drvarshasharma@gmail.com

Yes it is necessary to reprove Homoeopathic Medicines because -

1.  The drugs proved earlier are proved in the environmental conditions which were totally different from our country.

2. The desires, aversions & disagree found to be present in Homoeopathic medicines are of certain food substances which are not found in our country. Hence reproving needs to be done in our country, as there is vast difference in the living standard, climate, food and mental condition of the provers of other countries.

3.The proving that was done earlier were from different sources and the medicines prepared today are from a variable source. Hence the source of medicine needs to be standarised for proving & for preparation of medicine.

4. Remedies should be proved in various ranges of potencies i.e. low, medium and high potencies. 

5. Remedies should be proved in the same method advocated by Dr. Hahnemann.

5. Dr vashisht
Email: sk_vashisht@hotmail.com

Yes, there is need to publish the reproving of Homoeopathic medicines, you need (Homoeopaths) no especial Lab , record the observation of your first prescription, underline them and exchange that with your colleagues, it would go a long way to develop confidence among young Homoeopaths.

6. Dr. Saurav Kariwala
Email: kariwalasaurav@gmail.com

yes, it is needed for sure, as in those days the scenario of the people, requiring these proved medicine was different specially with regard to the maintaining causes these days.

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•  Combinations or Patents should be used in Homoeopathy ?

Opinion:

1) Dr. J.D. Patil (Aurangabad) PG Director & Director of Student Welfare MUHS Nashik.

Views about combinations  or Patents :-

Combinations & patents can be used in Homoeopathic practice provided that it should be proved on healthy human being in the same form

2) Dr. Kumar
Email: dr_kumar021@rediffmail.com
Views about combinations  or Patents :-

patents/combinations can't cure!
Patents and combinations are never favorable to a patient, who has been suffered from a chronic disease e.g. psoriasis, tumors, fibroids, tuberculosis, malign –type diseases (having cancerous effects) etc. Moreover, acute diseases like fever, cholera, diarrhea of infantile etc may need patents and combinations However; I have still not prescribed or administered these patents to any one because I have no faith in such patents or combinations. Some times, these combinations may prove much injurious to human body and lead the patient’s physic toward destruction; ultimately the patient has to suffer/ even to die due to aggravation or adverse effects of these combinations.
 I have still recalled a case of brain-atrophy that was led (by a physician having a poor knowledge of homoeopathic drugs) to the peak of seriousness and at last the patient died after reaching the worst position of his ailment.
In my own views, an experienced homoeopath would never prefer these patents rather than a single remedy treatment in his practice.  In short, entire theory of homoeopathy depends upon the symptomatic study of the patient’s case and that should also be tallied with the symptoms that of a homoeopathic remedy.
Combinations of bio-chemic remedies are too harmful if two medicines, Silicea and Calcarea Sulph are combined together.  Therefore, the practitioners should try to avoid the patents and combinations in their practice as far as possible.  I don’t know about other homoeopaths what views they have in this concern, but I do know about myself that is extremely against of the mixing homoeopathic remedies or mixo-therapy.
Dr. Kumar,
Director, Medical Institute of Alternative Therapies,
Kichha – 263 148, (U.S.Nagar)
Uttarakhand (India)

3) Dr. Sayeed Ahmad
Email: sayeed_ahmad1@rediffmail.com
Views About Combinations or Patents:
I totally agree with the views and understanding of Dr. Kumar.

4) Dr. Rhyna (B.N.Y.T.) (Uttarakhand)

I would like to detonate being agree with dr. kumar's views that patents and combinations are not  useful to the patients except some exceptional cases. In my opinion, these patents have short-lived effects on the patient's body. Just for an example, I have prescribed Alfalfa (a general tonic) to my patients but it gave no permanent effec to them. I also prefer a single remedy treatment that the soul of homoeopathy therapy.

Dr. Rhyna (B.N.Y.T.) (Uttarakhand) India

5) Dr. Ajay Pratap Singh
Email: vijay_homoeo_kichha@yahoo.com

Patents and combinations are the need of today.
To-day these combinatons and patents are being prepared in a large quantity by every manufacturing company of homoeopathic medicines, it looks that these products are the need of to-day, no doubt, nevertheless, it doesn't effects the practitioners whose practice is based on the single remedy treatment. I am also a homoeopath and prefer a single remedy in my practice but somewhere I have to take help of the combinations and the patents and they have been proved much helpful to my patients. I give importance to the principle of a single remedy treatment but I am not so strictly follower of it.
Dr. Ajay Pratap Singh (B.H.M.S.)
Kichha (Uttarakhand) India

6)Dr. A. Shanthakumar,

Email: drshantha9@hotmail.com

Any one who advocates combinations or patents cannot be called as Homoeopaths what ever the highest  paper qualification  they may have the are not qualified to be called as Homoeopaths. We Should find a  good suitable name for them. It is shame to call them Homoeopaths.
Any Homoeopath Who understand the cardinal principles of Homoeopathy will not justify these products with adjectives. If  any homoeopath know what is Homoeoapthic  medicine ,How it works on a human body  and how the patients is cured will not at any moment talk about patents.
The so called Homoeopaths who advocate these products are bribed by multinational drug manufacturing companies to defame the scientific aspect of Homoeopathy. Only financial  and personnel benefit is behind this.
We should learn from the past History. Any one who know the history how Homoeopathy  was Systematically defamed and faded  away  in America  where the Great masters of Homoeopathy lived and which was flourishing  during there time.
These products are profit motivated. Homoeopathy is the Highest degree of development in history of medicine in the field of art of treatment. The civilized man will develop every field  according to his need. But the cruel narrow minded prevailing present social structure based on private prosperity is trying pull back the civilized man.

The so called Homoeopaths who advocate patents are part and parcel of it.
As long as the private property exists  the profit motivated productions also will exists. You cannot avoid them unless you change the social structure.
If any Homoeopath who is genuinely interested to safeguard  the classical Homoeopathy for the benefit of  humanity  it is his duty and responsibility to fight for social structural change while fighting to defend  classical Homoeopathy. Both these struggles are interrelated. So fight for a classless society is not isolated with the fight for classical Homoeopathy and eradication of diseases.
Let us  first safeguard classical Homoeopathy from the cunning foxes among us by Isolating them from the Homoeopathic community.

Dr. A. Shanthakumar,
The National Homoeopathic Research Institute,
72 H Liberty Building,
Dunbar Road,
Hatton,
Sri Lanka.
Email:drshantha9@hotmail.com

7) Dr. Puneet Kumar
Email: kumarwrite@rediffmail.com

I  agree with the genuine views of dr.kumar and dr. A. Shanthakumar in regards with their ways of practice with a single remedy. They are right that the patents and combinations are never of no use. Those are not the permanent solution of a disease, nevertheless, I do confess that some times, these patents may be very useful to the patents if they are in urgent requirement of a quick remedy. Once I tackled a case of a severe anaemia and cured my patient with Alfalfa tonic that strengthened my patient within two-three days. It was really a good recovery of my patient. Afterwards, I treated him with a single remedy no doubt. I would like to apologise if I am wrong and anyone has been hurted with my opinion. I am sorry!
Dr. Puneet Kumar,
Indiranagar, Lucknow (India)

8) Dr. Varsha V. Sharma (Mumbai) MD(Hom)   

Email- drvarshasharma@gmail.com

Patents and combinations give a temporary relief to the patient. Cure cannot be achieved by patents and combinations but at certain stages like in acute stage patents & combinations can be used to produce temporary relief to the patient. In such cases patents & combinations do play an important role. Effects of patents and combinations are unknown hence are risky to use. Hence proving of patents & combinations should be done.

9) Sushil Kumar Sharma
Email: sharmasushilkumar4@gmail.com

I do agree with the genuine views of Dr.Kumar, Dr. A. Shanthakumar and Dr. Varsha V. Sharma, however, several times I have taken good results from the patents and combinations in some very serious cases. It depends upon the situation of the case study, when and where to use them. I have no hard and fast rule in this regards.
Dr. Sushil Kumar Sharma (Uttarakhand)

10 ) Dr Vashisht
Email: sk_vashisht@hotmail.com

11) Carla Carmichael MRHom MARH

Email: carla@brentham.supanet.com

Patents.
Lets be unprejudice, and avoid prejudice observations, this issue is  creating a division among our selves, we need to use our Brain, mind and not Heart, to answer it.

As a classically trained Homoeopath I concur with Dr Shanthakumar that
Homoeopaths who use or market combination remedies should consider
calling themselves something else but certainly not Homoeopaths! Poor
Dr Hahnemann, he must be turning in his grave!
Before I studied Homoeopathy I was subjected to "combination"
homoeopathic remedies (I had to inject them in to my thigh everyday) &
whilst they did a brilliant job of suppressing my symptoms once I
stopped using them the initial symptoms plus a few others(new)
returned with a vengence!!! I can speak from personal experience and
as far as I am concerned they are downright dangerous, afterall, we
all only have one vital force! At least from my bad experience I have
learned a lesson, and that is, I shall never subject any patient of
mine to combination remedies.

Carla Carmichael MRHom MARH
Classical Homeoeopath
Stirling, SCOTLAND,UK

12) Saurav Kariwala

Email: kariwalasaurav@gmail.com

I dont think following the Hahnemannian Homoeopathy allows us to do thus..we know that according to the Law of simplex such an act is equivalent to a crime..so patent is and should not be regarded as a Homoeopathic medicine.
 

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•  Advantages & Disadvantages of LM Potency ?

      Dr. 1) Dr. Srikanta Choudhury, M.D. (Hom)

LM potency is the latest therapeutic system of the homoeopathy. It may helps to the practitioner with bellow ways :

• LM potencies have the advantage of being the most gentle of the all the ways of doing homoeopathy. ‘Ideal of cure’ only can be materialized with this potency.

• LM potency is the most flexible of all the ways of doing homoeopathy. We can adjust the dose easily to individualized the dosage for the patient.

• This potency is best for treating hypersensitive people who prove all the remedies.

• It is also the best for treating chronic diseases, severe pathologies and miasms, especially the active miasms with discharges and hyper-allergic reactions.

• Highest development of power. In this new method of dynamization, the material part of the medicinal substance decreased more but grinding, pounding and succussion etc have been also increased much more times. Hence, the latent and indwelling essence of the material substances develops to its fullest extend in this way. Hahnemann says, “highest development of power and mildest in action.”

• Medicines of LM potency is milder in reaction. It can be safely administered even in most fatal cases without fear of dangerous and violent medicinal aggravation.

• Frequent repetition is permissible for even long lasting remedies. It can be repeated if and when necessary. Even the medicines of long-continued action may be administered safely.

• May be applied through olfactory method. For avoiding medicinal aggravation LM potency may applied through olfaction.

• Least amenable to antidotes. This potency renders full freedom to both the physician and the patient from the tyranny of centesimal potency. If the selection found to be wrong, a new well-selected medicine may be administered without antidoting previous one.

• The course of treatment can be minimized to half, quarter or even more less then that of Centesimal potency. It cures both acute and chronic patient surprisingly within quickest possible time.

• Can face boldly any challenge with the other school of medicines.

2) Dr. Kumar
Email: dr_kumar021@rediffmail.com

If the selection of a  remedy is suitable, doesn't effect the potencies. Every well-selected remedy would give positive result no doubt. The selection of a  potency has no importance before the symptomatic study of the patient's case. I, nevertheless, would appreciate the views "For avoiding medicinal aggravation LM potency may applied through olfaction."
Dr. Kumar, director, Suryanature-cure, Uttarakhand (India)

3) Puneet Kumar (Lucknow)

I agree with Dr. Kumar that the selection of the remedy is greater than that of the potency. The potency whether it is LM or CM has no value if your selection of the remedy is not right. I have got very remarkable results with 30 potency in several severe case.  Dr. Puneet Kumar (homoeopath), Indiranagar (Lucknow)

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